On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 12:54pm,
David Spector wrote:
The following is submitted for posting on nondualsharing.com:
Responses To Email
Here are my detailed responses to each point in Holger’s latest email to me:
Holger: “If Mooji would listen, would you have more respect?”
David: Yes, Mooji is not arrogant and pushy, like you. He is a real teacher, speaking from his real experience. You have the talk, from the mind, but no experience to back up the words. I can’t recall your ever having shared a genuine experience or nonduality insight with us.
Holger: “The one feeling alienated is only the separate-self.”
David: I am sorry to hear that you feel alienated. Stop depending on me for your feeling of adequacy. Learn from your behavior and leave me alone.
Holger: “We never met for personal gain or comfort, but to expose the myth of ‘me'”.
David: We met because you moderate our group. What is it with all this arrogance? I never asked you to be my teacher, and I never would.
Holger: “Use our interactions wisely, to see the trap (of you trying so hard); ‘die before you die’ is easy in Love.”
David: Our interactions are an embarrassment to you because of your poor behavior. You have sent me four emails so far today. I have not requested either your instruction or your pestering.
Holger: “Blaming an assumed Holger is convenient, but it prolongs the fake sufferer.”
David: I blame Holger, hoping he will someday hear and feel a bit of shame, to help remove his arrogance.
Holger: “Please give my words to your heart, not the person.”
David: You have not earned the right to speak to my heart. Arrogance only speaks to the mind. My mind rejects your arrogance. I would accept an honest communication from your heart, but I doubt that will happen.
Holger: “Believing that a person could forgive or be forgiven is ignorance.”
David: Nonsense. Anyone can forgive, or be forgiven, through Divine Grace, which is unconditional. Perhaps you will learn that someday. Meanwhile, your ignorance is marked by your inability to recognize your poor behavior due to arrogance.
Holger: “There is only Love, Peace, Intelligence, veiled by an unaware ‘me’ belief/investment.”
David: You demonstrate no love, no peace, and certainly no intelligence in your behavior with me. They are all veiled by your conditioning, arrogance, and especially by your unremitting fake teaching.
Holger: “Examine your pains, don’t think or blame or wait them away.”
David: Have you ever applied such arrogant advice to yourself? Of course not. This is called a “double standard”: one standard for yourself, another for your current victim/student.
Holger: “Happiness is independent of circumstances, peace is not a pleasure.”
David: Why aren’t you peaceful and happy enough to leave me alone?